Attorney General Eric Holder defends legality of FBIstings against Muslim groups
By Jerry Markon | Washington Post Staff Writer 12-11-2010
Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. struck back against criticism that the FBI has targeted Muslims in a series of undercover stings, telling a Muslim group Friday night that those who allege government entrapment "simply do not have their facts straight."
It's not that they are wrong, it's just that they "simply do not have their facts straight."
How well are you protecting the lives of Americans who work in abortion clinics, Eric?
In one of his most pointed and personal responses to allegations that government anti-terrorism tactics are overly aggressive, Holder strongly defended the FBI agents he said are fighting a wave of terrorist plots. Without their efforts, he said in a speech in San Francisco, "government simply could not meet its most critical responsibility of protecting American lives."
The FBI supplied the device? What more do we expect them to do? Detonate it?
Wading into the most controversial recent case, Holder backed the FBI's investigation of an Oregon man charged with trying to detonate a bomb at a Christmas tree lighting ceremony. FBI technicians had supplied the device, leading some Muslims and civil libertarians to question whether agents went too far by training the man for terrorism.
These are MY FBI agents and they are doing it just like I want them to. Hmmm.
"I make no apologies for how the FBI agents handled their work," Holder said. He spoke in a hotel ballroom before an estimated 300 people invited by Muslim Advocates, a group that itself is suing the Justice Department to learn more about investigative guidelines for FBI agents.
Well, these matters will be decided by the courts.
"Those who characterize the FBI's activities in this case as 'entrapment' simply do not have their facts straight - or do not have a full understanding of the law," Holder said. The nation's chief law enforcement official praised FBI agents and Justice Department lawyers while reaching out to Muslims "who say they feel uneasy about their relationship with the United States government."
Hmm. Why no more airplanes into huge buildings? Just cruddy bombing of area Metro stations? What hast Bin Laden wrought?
Holder's speech, the latest in a series of remarks on relations with Muslims, highlighted a national debate over government tactics that has built amid what authorities call the growing threat of homegrown terrorism. In recent weeks, undercover FBI operatives posing as Islamic radicals arrested the Oregon man and a Northern Virginia man accused of plotting to bomb Washington area Metro stations.
So, he tried to blow up a military recruiting station with a FAKE CAR BOMB supplied by the FBI? These guys, they are not the sharpest knives in the drawer, nor the brightest of bulbs in the socket.
In the latest case, a Baltimore construction worker was charged Wednesday with plotting to blow up a military recruiting station in Maryland after the FBI learned of his radical leanings on Facebook. The FBI supplied him with a fake car bomb that he tried to detonate, federal officials said.
This is clearly incorrect: Both sides pay lip service to the notion that a partnership is critical to increasing mutual understanding and preventing attacks; the FBI however is all bluster, and then train 'em and give 'em fake bombs.
FBI-Muslim relations have periodically been difficult in the years since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks as agents reached out to Muslims while also investigating them. Both sides agree that a partnership is critical to increasing mutual understanding and preventing attacks.
An FBI surveillance case collapsed? You mean, they surveilled the wrong guys? The not guilty guys?Tensions escalated last year after revelations that an FBI informant had infiltrated a mosque in California, seeking to build a terrorism case that later collapsed. Citing that case and what it called a pattern of FBI surveillance, a coalition of leading national Muslim organizations has largely suspended contact with the bureau.
Agha Saeed speaks the plain truth."It's a nonexistent relationship," said Agha Saeed, national chairman of the coalition, the American Muslim Task Force on Civil Rights and Elections.
"[T]hey have gone to great lengths to maintain good relations with the Muslim community" well, that's clearly not even remotely correct. There are MANY Muslim communities all over the country. They don't have enough agents to even HAVE a relation with very many of the Muslim communities. They deceive themselves, and the truth is not in them.
Justice Department and FBI officials say the California case is not representative of their relations with Muslims and that they have gone to great lengths to maintain good relations with the Muslim community. They say they continue to work closely with Muslims in investigating violence and other hate crimes against them.
Oh. Good. Establish an Arab/Muslim Engagement Advisory Group. Why? Not all Arabs are Muslims. Not all Muslims are Arab. Classic case of bureaucratic bungling. Forming a group that can't possibly do anything but meet. THIS is our homeland security. Be afraid people. Be very afraid.
Holder highlighted those efforts Friday night before an audience of Muslims, including many legal and business community leaders, at the Westin San Francisco. He said Justice Department and FBI officials are working hard to engage the Muslim and Arab communities through an Arab/Muslim Engagement Advisory Group he established last year.
On Tuesday, Holder said, nearly a third of the nation's 93 U.S. attorneys met in Washington to coordinate the effort.
Muslim Advocates, a national legal advocacy and educational organization, invited Holder to speak after meeting with him in September at the height of the controversy over whether a proposed mosque should be built near Ground Zero in Manhattan. The organization's Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the Justice Department, filed in September 2009, is pending in federal court in the District.
The lawsuit is seeking full public disclosure of FBI investigative guidelines for when and how agents can engage in surveillance.
Justice Department officials declined to comment on the case.
Farhana Khera, executive director of Muslim Advocates, criticized FBI and Justice Department tactics in terrorism cases, saying in an interview that they "divert precious law enforcement resources from actual threats and have the effect of stoking anti-Muslim sentiments."
She praised Holder for his stand against anti-Muslim bigotry and said his speech was "the continuation of a much-needed constructive and productive dialogue between the Justice Department and the Muslim community."
In his speech, Holder said, "On behalf of our nation's Justice Department, I am grateful to count you as partners in our work to promote tolerance, to ensure public safety and to protect civil rights.'' He called for "a new level of respect and understanding - between law enforcement and Muslim and Arab American communities."
But he was firm in supporting the tactics used against Mohamed Osman Mohamud, who is charged in the Oregon case.
"Mr. Mohamud's arrest was the result of a successful undercover operation - a critical and frequently used law enforcement tool," Holder said. "Because of law enforcement's outstanding work, Mr. Mohamud is no longer plotting attacks. He is now behind bars. And he will be brought to justice."
